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I was reading up on some other national forums and there were lots of threads about snake proofing your dog. I can understand it's a neccessity in texas or louisiana but man, those guys were going to the trouble to get defanged rattlers or tying up watersnakes and shock collering the dogs. I love snakes, own 4 of em and have 2 in my lab but i never even considered having to work the dog with them. Mabye there is some other positive aspects to living in ohio other than lake erie...relative lack of venomous snakes. A few copperheads down south and mabye a very rare timber rattlesnake but nothing like the texas guys were talking about.<br>