Training book

Discussion in 'Sporting Dog Training' started by CODB, Mar 21, 2005.

  1. CODB

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    What would be the best book to help me in training my new yellow pup. I am leaning towards Waterdog but open for other ideas.
     
  2. Ylwlabs

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    Chris I will see you at Clinicals in a few weeks. We will talk about books then. I have a few good ones along with some tapes
     

  3. Orion

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    Recommended for a new retriever pup:

    Video:
    Sound Beginnings by Jackie Mertens, www.puppyvideo.com

    Books:
    1. The 10-Minute Retriever by John and Amy Dahl
    2. Training Retrievers for Marshes and Meadows, by James Spencer
    3. Finished Dog by Charles Jurney
    4. The Working Retrievers by Tom Quinn

    You would do well to read every retriever book you can get you hands on. You can get a surprising number from the Ohio Library system:

    http://winslo.state.oh.us/publib/libtable.html
    http://www.ohiolink.edu/

    Equipment:
    Collar
    Puppy bumper or clean paint roller
    Hot dog slices ("pennies")
    Whistle

    A little later:
    Lead
    Heeling Stick
    Shotshells loaded with 209 primers; NOTE: do not shoot any gun, whether primers or full loads, over or near pup.
    Small Dokken (Teal, Quail, Grouse, etc.)

    Always: Lots of love, lots of praise.
     
  4. CMDUX

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    Tri-Tronics Retriever Training, or something like that. The program they describe is very very sound. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO USE AN E-COLLAR TO FOLLOW THE PROGRAM. Just take a little more time to solidify the commands and expectations the old-fashioned way.

    The absolute best thing you can do for yourself and your dog is to JOIN A RETRIEVER CLUB and go out and train with a group of more experienced dog people. I'm surprised Kevin, "Orion", didn't mention that. A book will only get you so far.

    Mike Sustin
    www.buckeyeretrieverclub.com
     
  5. Duxbak

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    Tri Tronic book has worked great for me. You don't have to use a collar for this to work.
     
  6. Orion

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    Oops, you're right Mike, what was I thinking? Yes, by all means, join a performance-based retriever club. Chris, if you are in Pickering, I believe the closest club would in fact be Mike's club.

    Also can confirm that the TriTronics retriever Training book IS a good one to have in your library.
     
  7. BrettRiedlinger

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    Here's a good website to look at.

    http://www.dobbsdogs.com/library/retrievers/index.html
     
  8. Trainer

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    I will be putting together a CD this summer, hopefully to be ready by early fall. It is going to be done with very little editing. It will be geared toward the everyday guy/girl that wants to train their hunting companion. We will use dogs of several different breeds, personalities, ages and issues. It will not be a canned, pre-edited presentation. We will cover everything needed to successfully get the dog into the duck blind. Will keep everyone up to date on the project. Jim
     
  9. CODB

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    Bought waterdog to keep me entertained at the hospital and probly will be heading to the library soon to check out the others. Another question, how much of a problem is it to play tug of war with my pup? He seems to enjoy it but I can see it causing major problems down the line.
     
  10. CMDUX

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    If you are in Pickering, in SW Ohio, your best bet would be the West Central Ohio HRC. Check out www.hrc-ukc.com to find contact information for that club or the Ohio River HRC. More of the West Central folks will be closer though. They have a hunt test coming up on April 23-24, go check it out and introduce yourself.
     
  11. Orion

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    I thought Pickering was SE of Columbus? Guess I don't know my Ohio geography that well.

    As far as playing tug with pup, most trainers, myself included, tend to think it is counter productive. One line of thought is that it tends to encourage hard-mouth and stickiness. Another line of thought is that pup must never win these matches; when pup wins, he moves up in the pack. I don't know for sure, but I do think that pups energy can be better spent in more productive activity.

    I play tug with Jack, but he is 5 years old. We also use a special toy that is never used for training. Someday you may be able to have a rousing game of tug with your dog, but doing it when he is a pup is probably not the best idea.
     
  12. CODB

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    I'm from pickerington and it is just southeast of Columbus. My pup doesn't have papers so I'm not sure I'd be welcomed at a club.
     
  13. Ylwlabs

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    Chris you will always be welcome at any club!!! You coming up Saturday?
     
  14. CODB

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    No it doesn't look like I'm going to be able to. I am taking Whitehall's civil service test that morning. How late are you guys going to be up there?
     
  15. Ylwlabs

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    We will be there till 4 or so
     
  16. CODB

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    I probly will make it up then but won't be til noon or I suppose.
     
  17. JohnB

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    <P>another good book is British training for the american retriever , by Vic Barlow. Just finished the book and really liked it</P>