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an adult deer tick. Hope you killed it.:shootingguns:
Was surprised to even see one after the frosts we've had. But I did give her the ole finger nail decapitation.
I've read that you can pick up bacteria related tick disease if you crush them with your fingers.
I hate them f ing things.

With a warm winter you'll see them for sure.
Birds can also carry them.
After I bagged a pheasant in January with a foot of snow on the ground I found one crawling on my sleeve.
My dog was diagnose with lyme disease about 3 yrs or 4 yrs ago and this past year tests showed he had some kidney damage. Lyme is known to cause that.
He also had wrist joint problems and joint fluid taps showed fluid build up and inflammation consistent with being caused by lyme.
I think he got it during that warm winter we had about 3 or 4 years ago.
I would find ticks on my dog and myself into the middle of January and February that year.
Look at the CDC map.
I think the disease and tick related disease problem is underreported and under diagnosed.
I also think allot of the tick control products for dogs are more toxic than is reported especially for long term use.
I used Frontline Plus and I'd still find engorged ticks on my dog.
It stopped working for fleas too.
I think the frontline also made my dog have mini seizures.
Hard to figure what's the best thing to do.

I found this article about tick control methods by folks in Maine interesting
http://bangordailynews.com/2013/05/08/outdoors/mainers-share-methods-of-keeping-ticks-off/
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I'd really like to see the odds of actually contracting anything from ticks. I know you northerners aren't used to a lot of ticks, but it's a guarantee to find a few everytime you enter the woods down here. I bet the average outdoorsman in this area finds 100 ticks a year on their person. Hell I usually kill them by biting their heads off because it's hard to smash them. With that being said, I don't know of a single person that has contracted anything from a tick.

I know it happens, and it's serious when it does. I just figured with all the ticks we have here, id personally know of a case if the odds were very high.
I've read that you can pick up bacteria related tick disease if you crush them with your fingers.
I hate them f ing things.

With a warm winter you'll see them for sure.
Birds can also carry them.
After I bagged a pheasant in January with a foot of snow on the ground I found one crawling on my sleeve.
My dog was diagnose with lyme disease about 3 yrs or 4 yrs ago and this past year tests showed he had some kidney damage. Lyme is known to cause that.
He also had wrist joint problems and joint fluid taps showed fluid build up and inflammation consistent with being caused by lyme.
I think he got it during that warm winter we had about 3 or 4 years ago.
I would find ticks on my dog and myself into the middle of January and February that year.
Look at the CDC map.
I think the disease and tick related disease problem is underreported and under diagnosed.
I also think allot of the tick control products for dogs are more toxic than is reported especially for long term use.
I used Frontline Plus and I'd still find engorged ticks on my dog.
It stopped working for fleas too.
I think the frontline also made my dog have mini seizures.
Hard to figure what's the best thing to do.

I found this article about tick control methods by folks in Maine interesting
http://bangordailynews.com/2013/05/08/outdoors/mainers-share-methods-of-keeping-ticks-off/
did you ever order your frontline off the web? there was a period of time where there was counterfeit product out there. may still be out there.
Last year during deer season the ticks were all over me. Anytime I walked through a grassy area on the hillside I was flicking the buggers off me. The frost won't keep them down for long, especially when we have a warm up.

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Yes I did use a Frontline product that I bought online but also used the same purchased from local pet supply stores.

There are many reports of an increased lack of effectiveness of the product with both fleas and ticks in some areas.


I was pretty sick about my dog getting Lyme, especially after I found out that my vet wasn't giving the proper dose of doxycyline to knock it out. Insisting on the test I caught it early too.

We hunted western PA. allot...See map of CONFIRMED Lyme disease cases. It's kind of hard to believe that they really stop at the PA. border like the map shows.

http://www.cdc.gov/lyme/stats/maps.html


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it is all climate and weather based. something like 98% of cases in ohio were actually contracted in another state.

when they do that map, they are putting a dot for every case in each county. that is why it appears to just stop at the border. in reality, the cases are on the eastern side of those counties.

is there still a lyme vaccine available for dogs? I used to get it for my GSP 8-10 years ago.
I think the CDC map shows locations for the living address of people who were infected.

I've read that there have been problems in some dogs with the lyme vaccine.
In some cases they developed immune mediated kidney disease. Some dogs that have been vaccinated contracted lyme even after being vaccinated. Some dogs will develop symptoms similar to lyme from the vaccine. The vaccine also doesn't help with other infectious bacterial diseases from ticks.

See LYME VACCINATION UPDATE http://veremedy.com/1732/lyme-vaccination-update/
Especially read the follow up comments.
I have actually had Lyme disease. I believe I picked it up in Western Maine or Eastern New Hampshire.

It is not an enjoyable thing to have.

I did not get one bulls eye area I had rings all over my body. I think I took antibiotics for 2 months. The only things I still notice is that my joints hurt. I guess we will see if and what the lasting effects are. I never saw the tick. But it was a normal thing out there to have them on you daily.
cdc maps by county of residence. there is only so much room on a map in each county for a blue dot
Yes, I see the dots are randomly placed by county of residence.
It's still odd to see such a distinct dividing line for a high number of confirmed cases in Pa.'s western counties while right across the state line a whole lot fewer cases are confirmed in Ohio. Those western Pa. counties really aren't that wide and some like Lawrence county are pretty small over all. I believe the disease is more under reported and under diagnosed in Ohio than in Pa.. I think my dog probably got it in one of the western Pa. counties. Lyme disease often is misdiagnosed and or not treated properly in many cases with humans as well as with dogs. It's hard to find a medical doctor who is familiar with treating it and seems to be even harder to find a vet who is.

Lyme Disease in U.S. Is Under-Reported, CDC Says
http://consumer.healthday.com/public-health-information-30/centers-for-disease-control-news-120/lyme-disease-in-u-s-is-under-reported-cdc-says-702231.html
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Frontline works fantastic for me; however, one must still be vigilant. I ran out in Sept and was being lazy, after picking ticks every day off my VDD I went and got a 6 month supply, 3 days after treatment no ticks. Revolution is ineffective and flee collars seem to have no effect. Cold weather is no guarantee as well, I was pulling ticks last Feb and March, not frequently, but a few.
Ticks are one of the toughest things to kill but Dawn dish soap kills them instantly. Same soap they use on birds and animals after oil spills. It takes a frost 12-16" deep and 2 weeks to kill them.
House your dogs off the ground will help immensely.
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