they don't look like bad boats, never been in one personally. have looked at them on the net and compared them to some other boats. i knocked them off my list because<br> i want something with a square back that i can put a trolling or gas motor on the back if i want. plus i want a flat deck that can hold a bag of decoys or a dog without sliding off while traveling, the muddy waters don't have either of these features. just something for you to think about.<br> <br> <br> <br>