<P style="MARGIN: 0px">Grizz109,</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">I'm on the same side of the fence with you on the Remingtons and their problems. There won't be any more of my hard earned cash going to their company, any more. <IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/tongue.gif" align=absMiddle border=0></P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px"> </P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">If it's an auto-loader that you're looking for and a 3 1/2" chamber is what you need, then take a look at the Russian Baikal MP-153. It has a chrome-lined bore, 24", 26" or 28" barrel lengths, an adjustable gas operating system, wood or synthetic stocks, vent rib and sells for $325 to $350. <IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/thumb.gif" align=absMiddle border=0></P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px"> </P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">Remington recently purchased the distribution rights from this company, but they don't touch the quality control. They're sold under the divisional name of Remington called, Spartan Arms. So, the MP-153 is now called the SPR-453. However, there are still quite a few MP-153s still out there.</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px"> </P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">tripleb and myself own one of the MP-153 auto-loaders and are very happy with our choices. I purchased a Terror choke in .675" restriction and can get a 91% pattern inside a 30" circle at 40 yards with 3 1/2" Kent Fast Steel 1 3/8 oz. BBB @ 1550 f.p.s. <img src="/images/boards/smilies/cool.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle"> I've shot geese at 55+ yards and they drop out stone dead with holes in their backs from complete penetration.</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px"> </P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">I've had <STRONG>NO</STRONG> problems with my MP-153 and would purchase another one, if I had the same chance again. There's a dealer in Lima and one in Troy that sells the Baikal line of shotguns, but I'm sure that someone sells them in your area too.</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px"> </P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">Good hunting, Bowhunter57</P>