Gunfire

Discussion in 'Sporting Dog Training' started by DiverDown, Jul 17, 2005.

  1. DiverDown

    DiverDown New Member

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    <P>When do you introduce the pup to gun fire??? I introduces Sprig to gun fire this morning and he done a great job, except, he wanted to head in the direct of the where the gunfire was echoing off of a woods<IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/bawl.gif" align=absMiddle border=0>&nbsp;then we realized that that the gun needed to be pointing in the opposite direction<IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/idea.gif" align=absMiddle border=0><IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/biggrin.gif" align=absMiddle border=0>. After that He was on the game. he made 6 100 yard retrieves with like he had been doing it all summer<IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/thumb.gif" align=absMiddle border=0>&nbsp;Hopefully he will be ready to go on the 1st of September. So back to the question, did I introduce the gun to soon?? and is it possible to rush things? DD</P>
     
  2. Trainer

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    <P>It is natural for the dog to react to the direction of the echo.&nbsp; He will learn that the mark is more important than the sound of the gun.&nbsp; He will also become more confident in your positioning than the echo.&nbsp; Jim</P>
     

  3. DiverDown

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    <P style="MARGIN: 0px">Thanks Guys, I thought I done something wrong.</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">&nbsp;</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">Jim, I would love to spend a week to have you work with the pup, but I know that ain't possible, for some reason work and money gets in the way of all of life's good times<IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/frown.gif" align=absMiddle border=0>&nbsp;so I'll have to take your advise this way, thanks for the help. Jeff aka DD</P>
     
  4. Trainer

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    <P>Do not let money be the problem.&nbsp; If you would like to spend a day with me, all you need to do is schedule it and take the drive.&nbsp; I need to make a living, but it is common knowledge with all my clients and friends that not being able to aford my fees is not a reason for me not to share the gift that God has blessed me with.&nbsp; I have some clients that can barely afford dog food, forget about training fees.&nbsp; Jim<IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/cool.gif" align=absMiddle border=0><IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/wink.gif" align=absMiddle border=0></P>
     
  5. DiverDown

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    <P style="MARGIN: 0px">Matt, I am trying to train sprig by one of the books and DVD's I have<IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/frown.gif" align=absMiddle border=0>&nbsp;He's a quick learner, it's just I have to remember he is still a pup<IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/biggrin.gif" align=absMiddle border=0>&nbsp;We started the gun fire at about 100 yds and yesterday evening we progressed up to about 15 to 20 yds before we ran out of daylight. He was looking in the directions of the gun&nbsp; fire and was watching the dokken go up and come down. the only problem he had last yesterday was wanting to break at the site of the dokken in the air. that is the next thing to work on. I guess it's time to bring out the traffic lead and use it to hold him. I have been told to get a pinch collar but I don't see a need for it, yet. </P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">&nbsp;</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">As for doubles we only done that once. and it was to see if he would do it.<IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/biggrin.gif" align=absMiddle border=0>&nbsp;Ijust hope I can have him ready to go on sept 1st for the doves and maybe teal if I can find any<IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/frown.gif" align=absMiddle border=0>&nbsp;</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">&nbsp;</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">Jim, if I can find a weekend and the money for the 10 hour trip, I'll take you up on that offer. DD</P>
     
  6. Ylwlabs

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    <P style="MARGIN: 0px">DD</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">What part of Ohio you from? You are more then welcome to come down and train with us. I live in Northern Delaware County and I usally train 4 days a week. </P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">&nbsp;</P>
     
  7. drakewadder

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    <P style="MARGIN: 0px">&nbsp; DD</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">&nbsp;Take Ylwlabs up on his offer!</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">&nbsp;He and his wife are great people!</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">&nbsp;Contact him and let him tell you about the get together's he has and how they do it.</P>
     
  8. Trainer

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    <P>Just had three different Ohio Waterfowl people out this week.&nbsp; Any time you want to come out the offer still stands.&nbsp; Jim</P>
     
  9. Orion

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    DD,<br> <br> There are tons of good retriever folks around you. You should not have to resort to DVD's and books. The West Central Ohio Hunting Retriever Club is very close to you. I urge you to contact President Dale Schock at (937)256-1723 or [email protected] (remove #1 from address). Tell him Kevin Fitz-Gerald referred you, and that you have a young retriever, and that you like to get together with some club members for some training. If you have trouble getting him, let me know. <br> <br> You are about 2 hours south of me, but you are welcome to come up and train with Jack and I. We have a great public dog training area 1/2 mile from my house that is open 365 days a year. Just let me know.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br>
     
  10. DiverDown

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    <P style="MARGIN: 0px">Thanks guys.</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">&nbsp;</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">Jim, I am trying to figure out when I could make the trip.</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">&nbsp;</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">&nbsp;</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">Ylwlabs and Orion, you both are the same distance from me about 100 miles. Do you train on Saturdays or Sunday's??? I could make the trip on one of these days, now the hard part deciding who to go to for help<IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/biggrin.gif" align=absMiddle border=0>&nbsp;thanks again. </P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">&nbsp;</P> <P style="MARGIN: 0px">Matt, I only done the double once, and I have been asking Jim questions at work on a regular basis, the problem with working with them is they have 11 dogs to train between the two of them and by time they are done it's either dark out or un godly hot. but thanks for the advise. DD</P>
     
  11. Orion

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    DD,<br> <br> I just have Jack, and he is a solid Finished dog.&nbsp; I do not train daily, however, you just tell me what Saturday you want to train and if my schedule is open, I would be glad to help.&nbsp; I try to stay away from Sunday training.<br> <br> Regards,<br> Kevin<br> <br>
     
  12. ducksnbucks

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    <P>If you get the chance I would defiantely go see Jim Beverly, just got my dog back from him this past weekend, Take him up on his offer if you can find the time to.... Andy</P>