Grand River Green tree

Discussion in 'NorthEast' started by mrkinish14, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. mrkinish14

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    <P>Green Tree Marsh is almost empty. Has about 1/2 of what was in it last year(which wasn't much).&nbsp; Only the far back portion is holding any sort of water.&nbsp; Not many&nbsp;birds using it, just the local greater snow geese.</P>
     
  2. cmrosko

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    Those are swans.<div><br></div><div>Keeping the water low in the mid and late summer allows more duck friendly vegetation to grow. They usually allow it to fill later in the season.</div>
     

  3. mrkinish14

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    Yes, I know they are swans... it was sarcasm <IMG src="http://bowtest.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/rolleyes.gif" align=absMiddle border=0><br><br>They have never drained it untill last year because the dike was broken or something along that nature.&nbsp; They didn't fill it up last year and I highly doubt they will this year either.&nbsp; <br>
     
  4. Dukwakr

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    <P>they have never drained it, the dike was busted up by rats and they never got around to fix it because they didnt want to disturb the freaking bald eagle</P>
     
  5. mjmaurer

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    <P>I was in that place several years ago. I remember it was a long walk back to where we gunned and we used my canoe wheeler to get back there for just a couple woodies. Tough place to hunt&nbsp; my .02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MJ</P>
     
  6. MaktheQwk

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    <P>And to think, many,many years ago, you would close your eyes and think you were in Stuggart!!&nbsp; We killed so many birds back in the 70's at Grand River.&nbsp; We had permission for a few years to park at the Burbock's place just north of where the old pheasant pens used to be.&nbsp; My late uncle worked with Betty Burbock(sp?) at the old Vlchak Tool Co. in Cleveland.&nbsp; They had a trailer concession business, and owned property that ran clear back to the edge of the Greentree marsh.&nbsp; Featherduster aka. Capt. Scott and his crew shot just north of us.&nbsp; Minga, did we kill some birds back then!!&nbsp; And teal?!?!!...usually walking out with limits in just minutes!!&nbsp;I remember as a teenager being in a hurry to shoot our birds so I could get home because we had Todd Rundgren tickets for his Utopia tour at the&nbsp;Cleveland Music Hall.&nbsp;It's a shame such a place took a crap!!!</P>
     
  7. mjmaurer

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    &nbsp;I also remember going in that place with an old Herters game caller that played 45 records.<br>&nbsp;Put a Great Horned Owl decoy up in a dead tree and had some good crow shoots there.<br>&nbsp;30 years ago <IMG src="http://bowtest.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/frown.gif" align=absMiddle border=0>&nbsp; wow&nbsp; &nbsp;MJ<br>
     
  8. cmrosko

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    I remember about 5 years ago one of the D.O.Wildlife &nbsp;guys talking about the greentree marsh dike being in working order and that the water was down early in the season to allow allot of duck friendly vegetation to grow so the water would be raised later into the season for the migrating waterfowl.<div><br></div><div>The dike at Shenango, along Milligan East is washed out pretty bad. That large pond remains down about 3' which reduces the overall size of that pond a good bit.</div><div><br></div><div>I noticed allot of waterfowl around the south end of Mosquito the last couple of days, 10/4. 10/5. I think that steady northeaster with all that rain might have pushed some early migrators into the area from the east.</div><div><br></div><div>Seeing an influx of woodcock lately also. This weekend might be good. After all that rain soaked the ground pretty good they might hang around a bit.</div>
     
  9. i have hunted greentree before it used to be amazing my dad told me many many stories of that place now its a 2 mile walk with gear to get back there cause of the state blocking off the roads.... i hunt mainly the lake now cause of so much pressure on the marshes in grandriver.. my personal favorites used to be the ohio edison pond on 88 across from the old hunting club the doctor owned and i loved stroup hickox swamps right off of 88 just so much hunting pressure and gets shot out so soon and people shoot early and extremely late in that whole area.... and dont even get me startd on norton odnr has really mismanaged those ponds i used to have amazing hunts back in there
     
  10. jjm

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    I agree they really screwed up the old Dillion ponds and also just let green tree die away for the past 30 years.
    If they can't sell a deer or turkey permit and get that $ the ODNR does
    not seem to care much about anything else. A real shame.
     
  11. sofakinglazy

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    Contact your division three representative for the OWA they always seem to be looking to do something .

    Here is their chance to put up or shut up
     
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  14. peanut

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    I have had a few very memorable hunts in greentree. My first, and probably only scotch triple! I was told a few years ago, when it first was drained (and coincidentally the year it started going down hill) that someone blew up the pumps/dike/drainage system. Probably some long haired hippy that didn't want the pretty little ducks and giant snow geese shot. This allegedly came from an ODNR guy. Can't remember the year, maybe 02-03ish, but it was pretty much drained completely down to mud. They kind of filled it in that year, but it's been nothing special since. The south end that is closer to the parking lots, used to be filled with water. The last few times I was back there, it had very little water. Main marsh didn't look the same either.

    As much as it stinks for duck hunters, it seems like the ODNR spends their time and money for deer hunting. That's what I would guess brings the most money to the state.

    How many guys think about going to Ohio to duck hunt? I bet plenty come here to deer hunt.....

    I know a few myself, that travel great distances to deer hunt in Ohio.

    In fact in 04, I was only able to hunt the fist few hours of opening day of deer gun, and I headed to greentree. In the main parking lot, I ran I to a guy who had traveled from New York to hunt Ohio deer. He had a nice 140-150" buck in the back of his truck.

    I don't think that guy would have driven here to hunt ducks though........
     
  15. ChessieForever

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    pics 30 years ago +/-

    This it what it used to be......shows a small shot of the place......used to have field trials there. Back behind the old pens it was flooded timber. State boys really screwed it up!!!
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  16. jjm

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    When I was a kid we walked along the pen then back in to beaver pond in the woods. When they starting shooting in the main marsh the wood ducks and mallards would pile in that beaver pond. The geese would fly over us tree top high and go land on the other side of 534. We only hunted until 8:30 or 9 in the morning.
    Would go back to the truck take off our waders, change coats and let the dog work pheasants. We never hunted past noon. Good luck shooting 2-3 ducks a goose and 1or 2 pheasants a man by noon there now. Back then it was only one goose a hunter.
     
  17. awesome pics! have u ever hunted the stroup hicox ponds that r on 88? or behind the vfw that runs into doc temples old property? or the pond that used to have the ohio Edison sign on it?
     
  18. ChessieForever

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    not that I remember.......unless its next to Grand River
     
  19. its in that whole area
     
  20. bekosaur

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    I have some fond memories of hunting there in the late 70's also back behind the VFW on 534, on the other end leading to 45 there were a couple of small ponds that used to hold birds, my son and I saw a fantastic meteor shower one morning waiting for sunrise, shame for a place to go down hill like that