<P>Thanks, hopefully it won't be too bad- I have a guy I work with that I found out traps and feels for them coming to assist. Just found out today he does it. He uses rope traps. Prefers to feel for them <IMG src="http://www.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/eek.gif" align=absMiddle border=0>. That just isn't right! Maybe once I see a couple come out, I would get up enough sack to do it myself. Key to that is MAYBE!!!</P>