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Old 03-09-2011, 04:36 PM   #1
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Default Looking for a call, what's your opinion?

Im looking for a good all around goose call. I live in the worst part of the state to be a waterfowler so there isnt anywhere down here that I can go and "test out" calls unless my buddies happen to have them. Ive been looking at the Zink LM-1 and the Grounds real thang, but have never tried either. My main concern is that they might be too high pitched fr some of thebigger geese that we get.

What is your opinion. If you were only going to buy one call, what call would it be?



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Old 03-09-2011, 04:55 PM   #2
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In watching the reaction of geese to my calls over the last 10-12 years, I've come to the conclusion that high pitched calls, blown with rapid notes tend to be more attractive to geese than low pitched calls, at least in getting their attention.  If you want a call to sound "goosey" to you, get a longer, lower pitched call.  If you want to get the attention of geese, get a higher pitched call.

I've had a Grounds Guides Best flute, Grounds Half Breed, Grounds Polycarb Supermag, Zink SR-1, Zink PC-1, Winglock Delrin Longneck and the only call of those mentioned which could turn geese effectively was the Guides Best Flute, tuned high and blown fast.  To be frank, I didn't use the Half Breed enough to get enough information to form a firm opinion on it, though.

Several years ago, I talked to Mike Stelzner, of C&S Custom Calls about one of his Prophet model calls.  It's about the same size as a Supermag, but much easier to blow.  It can be adjusted to be low pitched or high pitched.  And, I had him tune it very easy to blow, since I had some air capacity issues.  That's the way he set it up and I could run it fairly fast, yet it had a tonal range good enough that I could get 6 different pitches of clucks on it.  Mike is very helpful in trying to set a call up for you, if you let him know of any particular issues you have.  The best way to reach him is by email.  I have three of the Prophet models, in hedge, Hawaiian curly Koa and in Bocote.  Since my air capacity increased from practicing, recently I changed the call guts over to Edge guts using the wide end of the E4 reed.  That gut change made the calls a bit harder to blow, since they require more air volume to run the Edge guts, but the calls are louder and still have a very wide tonal range.

C & S Custom Calls Bocote Prophet

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As my air capacity increased, I went with his Disciple models.  They are a bit trickier to run, as they are shorter calls, requiring more control over your hands in the call operation.  They're less forgiving in that regard than the Prophet model.  But, they are very fast, require little air to run, though it has to be "popped" into the call at a higher pressure and the geese love that call.






Recently, I ordered Mike's shortest call, the Apostle and I'll attach a link to the thread on it, posted on the main forum sometime back.  The thread has some sound files of the call, the Apostle run by a very good caller, who goes by the name, calling4life, on the Refuge.



http://bowtest.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5117987



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Old 03-09-2011, 07:03 PM   #3
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C&S Disciple is what I like right now. For the price you cant go wrong. Very little air needed to run my call. I can get 19 clucks with one breath.

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C&S Disciple*is what I like right now. For the price you cant go wrong. Very little air needed to run my call. I can get 19 clucks with one breath.



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My opinion, a new Lynch Mob X-Factor, or the old reliable Goose Noose.

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Id like to stay away from the "tricky to run" calls. I dont have a ton of experience with goose calling or short reeds. I use a flute type now, and it sounds good. But I hate having that big cumbersome thing hanging around my neck all of the time.

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I'm using a southern game call right now. The geese seem to like it. I'm not sure of the exact name of the call but it is all wood.

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Id like to stay away from the "tricky to run" calls. I dont have a ton of experience with goose calling or short reeds. I use a flute type now, and it sounds good. But I hate having that big cumbersome thing hanging around my neck all of the time.

I don't thing the C&s is a tricky call. Easy to make goose sounds. Like anything practice and more practice. How did your flute call sound when you first got it.
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Id like to stay away from the "tricky to run" calls. I dont have a ton of experience with goose calling or short reeds. I use a flute type now, and it sounds good. But I hate having that big cumbersome thing hanging around my neck all of the time.

I don't thing the C&s is a tricky call. Easy to make goose sounds. Like anything practice and more practice. How did your flute call sound when you first got it.
The Prophet is very easy to run.  And, Mike can adjust the guts to require very little air to run the call, or leave them as original to be on the easy side of average in terms of difficulty.  Or, you can have a different set of guts put in them, something which requires more air, but is louder.  The short calls are the ones which can be tricky for a newbie to run because so much of the sound is controlled by very small movements of your hands and fingers.  A newbie to short calls can be moving a finger 1/8 of an inch, changing the pitches of the notes with the movements, and not even realize why he can't make the same note twice in a row.
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They are all the same thing in a nutshell. Try as many out as you can and get the one that fits you best. 

My guess is a GK will fit ya best though 


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